{"video_id":"dQICD8kbRLs","title":"Whitney Webb EXPOSES Kamala, Trump, Israel And More! (Interview)","creator":"Sabby Sabs / Sabrina Salvati","guest":"Whitney Webb","source":"User-supplied YouTube transcript","entry_count":520,"duration_seconds":4140,"entries":[{"time":"0:00","seconds":0,"text":"[Music]"},{"time":"0:03","seconds":3,"text":"okay welcome to Sabi sabs podcast I'm your host Sabrina Salva my special guest today is journalist and author Whitney"},{"time":"0:12","seconds":12,"text":"Webb who is also the most requested guest for Sabi saab's podcast Whitney I so delighted to talk to you today thank"},{"time":"0:20","seconds":20,"text":"you so much for coming on yeah absolutely my pleasure thanks for having me you have been the most requested"},{"time":"0:27","seconds":27,"text":"guest for this show a number of people have reached out to me said please get Whitney Webb on especially when I was talking about uh Jeffrey Epstein a lot"},{"time":"0:35","seconds":35,"text":"of people said to uh to bring you on so I'm so glad to to talk to you and I I do want to start off diving into the 2024"},{"time":"0:43","seconds":43,"text":"presidential election obviously this time around there is a huge elephant in the room and that is Israel and this is"},{"time":"0:51","seconds":51,"text":"all around October 7th and the genocide that is taking place in Gaza I think for the first time uh since hosting this"},{"time":"1:00","seconds":60,"text":"show I'm seeing a lot of people pay more attention to what Israel is uh as the creation of Israel the treatment of"},{"time":"1:07","seconds":67,"text":"Palestinians but also people are starting to pay attention to uh politicians connection to the Israeli"},{"time":"1:15","seconds":75,"text":"Lobby and they're starting to see that both Republicans and Democrats have that connection recently kamla Harris stated"},{"time":"1:23","seconds":83,"text":"that she approves of a ceasefire there was a conversation that she had privately with some of the uncommitted"},{"time":"1:30","seconds":90,"text":"uh supporters where she told them that she would be open to an arms embargo but publicly her campaign has"},{"time":"1:39","seconds":99,"text":"said that she would not support an arms embargo and I want to get your take on this about this this hold that these"},{"time":"1:48","seconds":108,"text":"organizations like APAC and also J Street have on these politicians and How likely do you think it is that someone like kamla Harris will actually support"},{"time":"1:57","seconds":117,"text":"an arms embargo if she is elected yeah so I think it's very unlikely that Cala will actually support that once in once in office I think people need to keep in"},{"time":"2:06","seconds":126,"text":"mind regardless of what party uh you're listening to that you know Camp campaign promises or sales pitches and we have so"},{"time":"2:13","seconds":133,"text":"many examples of people running for president um saying one thing on the campaign Trail and doing you know essentially the exact opposite once they"},{"time":"2:22","seconds":142,"text":"get in office and so Cala you know is someone who's been in the office of vice president and we kind of know what her stand is and we've seen what the bid"},{"time":"2:31","seconds":151,"text":"Administration has done in relation to what's transpired in Gaza and uh obviously she hasn't put any pressure on"},{"time":"2:40","seconds":160,"text":"them at all as vice president and she easily could have uh and I think again it's just a way of trying to uh differentiate herself in terms of"},{"time":"2:48","seconds":168,"text":"rhetoric from Trump but I think in terms of practice and how it would pan out uh with her in the White House versus Trump in the white house I think the"},{"time":"2:57","seconds":177,"text":"differences as it relates to us support for um you know the Israeli War Machine would essentially be unchanged um and I"},{"time":"3:04","seconds":184,"text":"think that's pretty clear if you look at just the DNC and the Republicans historically and their relationship with Israel um and you know essentially"},{"time":"3:12","seconds":192,"text":"letting Israel dictate major aspects of US foreign policy specifically as it relates to the Middle East and um being"},{"time":"3:19","seconds":199,"text":"one of the driving forces behind a lot of efforts to um of the US to enact regime change in the Middle East as well"},{"time":"3:26","seconds":206,"text":"as um being one of the main um I guess you know again driving forces behind the invasion of Iraq after the you know in"},{"time":"3:34","seconds":214,"text":"the post 911 era and all of that a lot of that was drawn up um in documents created by us neocons that served in the Bush Administration for Netanyahu on"},{"time":"3:42","seconds":222,"text":"this policy document called a clean break which essentially laid the groundwork for uh what would become the invasion of uh Iraq in you know 2003 and"},{"time":"3:51","seconds":231,"text":"then later on the dirty war in Syria and a lot of these people um you know neocons have sort of rebranded Richard Pearl for example had a close"},{"time":"3:59","seconds":239,"text":"relationship at one point with Peter teal and helped him set up uh paler which is a you know a company that has ties to the Biden Administration as well"},{"time":"4:07","seconds":247,"text":"as well as to the Trump campaign um you know Avil Haynes the top uh intelligence official in the Biden Administration is a you know used to be a very high"},{"time":"4:15","seconds":255,"text":"ranking consultant and longtime consultant uh for paler for example um as far as APAC goes as an organization"},{"time":"4:23","seconds":263,"text":"what a lot of people don't know is that they've also been caught um being involved in Espionage operations even though they weren't charged for it"},{"time":"4:30","seconds":270,"text":"formally um I forget the exact uh the exact nature of what happened but it was reported on pretty early on I think by"},{"time":"4:38","seconds":278,"text":"Justin rimondo of antiwar.com uh back when it was happening and uh it was uh I think a a guy at the Pentagon was"},{"time":"4:45","seconds":285,"text":"passing classified information to officials at APAC who then passed it on to the Israeli government um and the case was essentially like shut down and"},{"time":"4:53","seconds":293,"text":"very poorly handled and pretty much everyone involved should have gone to prison and there's uh there was also Ann scandle involving APAC in the 1980s and"},{"time":"5:02","seconds":302,"text":"APAC is funded uh a lot of it is funded by this group of Zionist billionaires or historically has been um that are Loosely known as the mega Group which is"},{"time":"5:10","seconds":310,"text":"sort of the nickname that the Wall Street Journal gave them uh back in the late 90s but this was created in 1991 by Leslie Wexner and Charles bramman and so"},{"time":"5:19","seconds":319,"text":"intimately involves Wexner the bromfman family the Crowns Who were actually a major force behind um Obama's political"},{"time":"5:26","seconds":326,"text":"career um and you know a lot of uh you know these other figur that have had an outsized role in donating to APAC and Wexner in particular has a lot of"},{"time":"5:34","seconds":334,"text":"influence on APAC as well um I think one of the top people at APAC uh you know a couple years ago essentially bragged that most of the top people in the"},{"time":"5:41","seconds":341,"text":"organization had previously uh you know been Wexner fellows so you know undergone sort of like the Wexner philanthropic leadership training"},{"time":"5:50","seconds":350,"text":"courses and all of that and so a lot of these billionaires um as I wrote in my book one one nation under blackmail have historic ties to organize crime"},{"time":"5:58","seconds":358,"text":"specifically the grounds the brownman and Leslie waxner himself um and so um you know they've tried to sort of"},{"time":"6:05","seconds":365,"text":"dominate a lot of US foreign policy um decisions as it relates to Israel and have you know questionable interests um"},{"time":"6:13","seconds":373,"text":"and a lot of their organized t uh crime ties I think are very important because if you look at the creation of the state of Israel uh particularly its National"},{"time":"6:20","seconds":380,"text":"Security State in the late 40s um it involved a significant amount of uh organized crime figures in the United"},{"time":"6:28","seconds":388,"text":"States who were uh trafficking weapons to the hag which is the precursor to the IDF and so once the you know the hag"},{"time":"6:35","seconds":395,"text":"transformed into the IDF and a lot of these other groups uh became that were you know paramilitary groups before the"},{"time":"6:42","seconds":402,"text":"creation of the state of Israel um you know they had all these ties to you know essentially what was the Jewish mob in the United States and those ties"},{"time":"6:49","seconds":409,"text":"persisted and that particular network of organized crime you know you it is directly tied to these billionaires I just mentioned um and so you know I"},{"time":"6:58","seconds":418,"text":"think that helps sort of flesh out why this relationship is that way and also helps explain why you have um so so many"},{"time":"7:05","seconds":425,"text":"collaborations over the years between CIA and mad um and so you know I argued in some past work at uh when I worked at"},{"time":"7:13","seconds":433,"text":"M press news that really what we have at this point is a bational Security State because of the lot of policies that have been made uh but it really goes back to"},{"time":"7:21","seconds":441,"text":"this Nexus at the end of um you know the end of the 1940s when organized crime sort of got really involved not just with us intelligence but also in the"},{"time":"7:29","seconds":449,"text":"creation of Israel's National Security State uh as well and so APAC is sort of a Lobby group for a lot of those"},{"time":"7:36","seconds":456,"text":"interests um unfortunately and um a and also you know there's a lot of um I would argue there's some other uh"},{"time":"7:44","seconds":464,"text":"interests here as well so like uh Gaza for instance is being used and historically Palestine has been used by the"},{"time":"7:50","seconds":470,"text":"Israeli uh you know War Industry uh for the purpose of testing weapons of war and now you have um some of these AI"},{"time":"7:58","seconds":478,"text":"defense compan or other you know companies that are trying to transition into a into AI like paler teaming up with the IDF to"},{"time":"8:07","seconds":487,"text":"essentially uh run live trials on you know their their AI powered death machines uh on civilians in Gaza and it"},{"time":"8:15","seconds":495,"text":"seems very unlikely because of the ties of uh the people that create those uh organizations or that fund them you know"},{"time":"8:22","seconds":502,"text":"they have ties to really both uh party uh parties here whether it's Trump or you know or the Republicans or uh the"},{"time":"8:30","seconds":510,"text":"Democrats so unfortunately you know these companies are um U obviously kind of interested in"},{"time":"8:38","seconds":518,"text":"advancing their uh I guess bottom line and their products but it's you know um being tested and absolutely the worst"},{"time":"8:45","seconds":525,"text":"way possible and i' I've never heard any politician even reference that fact or the fact that these AI weapons have been proven to be grossly inaccurate or being"},{"time":"8:54","seconds":534,"text":"used to Target uh you know entire families on the Gaza Strip on very uh basically on metrics that nobody knows a lot of these AI programs that have been"},{"time":"9:03","seconds":543,"text":"used in um in the war on Gaza are completely opaque and no one really knows how uh there's you know the the kill lists they're drawing up or being"},{"time":"9:11","seconds":551,"text":"developed so unfortunately a lot of that's being done uh with us Silicon Valley with us intelligence and with US military contractors um and you know"},{"time":"9:20","seconds":560,"text":"those are the people that have an outsize influence on the country and I think it's very unlikely that Republicans and Democrats uh will go against that especially if APAC is"},{"time":"9:28","seconds":568,"text":"successful uh you know buying their silence which there you know there's major uh political contributions that APAC makes"},{"time":"9:36","seconds":576,"text":"which of course you know facilitates a lot of these uh policies at the Congressional level as well journalist uh Rick Sterling I"},{"time":"9:45","seconds":585,"text":"interviewed him a while back and he was explaining to me that JFK wanted to have a back then it wasn't APAC there was a"},{"time":"9:52","seconds":592,"text":"different name for it but similar idea he wanted that organization to register as a for forign agent and he it was it"},{"time":"10:01","seconds":601,"text":"was him and RFK who was his attorney general tried really hard to get I forget the name but yeah it was a precursor to it might have been the"},{"time":"10:08","seconds":608,"text":"Zionist organization of America actually zoa which is still around and Morton Klein runs it and he's very close to"},{"time":"10:15","seconds":615,"text":"Trump World I guess right right and so uh obviously that didn't happen JFK was assassinated so we didn't see that come"},{"time":"10:24","seconds":624,"text":"to light what is the likelihood uh considering all these protests that have that have happened all across the world uh for the Palestinian cause there have"},{"time":"10:33","seconds":633,"text":"been thousands of people out in the street there's thousands of people in the street yesterday in Chicago uh protesting the DNC convincing uh pushing"},{"time":"10:41","seconds":641,"text":"U kamla and Biden to move in a different way on this particular issue the big demand has moved from a ceasefire to uh"},{"time":"10:50","seconds":650,"text":"an arms embargo with Israel what is the likelihood and please be just 100% candid because I I really want my"},{"time":"10:57","seconds":657,"text":"viewers to not waste their time and think that they are going to be able to push someone in a different direction push a politician in a different"},{"time":"11:05","seconds":665,"text":"direction what is the likelihood that today given everything that has happened and uh the numerous protests that our"},{"time":"11:13","seconds":673,"text":"government will move away from the state of Israel cut ties with Israel or cut ties with organizations like"},{"time":"11:21","seconds":681,"text":"APAC yeah I think it's hugely uh unlikely at least in the short to medium term and there would have to be some major structural change and us political"},{"time":"11:30","seconds":690,"text":"system I think uh for that relationship to be broken and um there's a couple reasons I say this but one reason that's sort of overlooked that I reported on a"},{"time":"11:37","seconds":697,"text":"lot when I worked off for mint press news is that there's a particular billionaire who's very close to the Zionist fault uh who's uh forgetting his"},{"time":"11:46","seconds":706,"text":"first name but his last name is singer and he created this organization called startup Nation Central with a bunch of people with connections to um the"},{"time":"11:54","seconds":714,"text":"Israeli government and basically his goal there was to uh have these intelligence Israeli"},{"time":"12:01","seconds":721,"text":"intelligence connected startups um promoted and specifically to us companies to facilitate their mergers"},{"time":"12:08","seconds":728,"text":"with us companies as a way to have uh Israeli intell intelligence veterans in key positions in the US tech industry to"},{"time":"12:15","seconds":735,"text":"prevent any sort of meaningful uh Embrace of the boycott dest sanctions movement or BDS movement against Israel"},{"time":"12:23","seconds":743,"text":"and this was back in like 2012 so this has been something that they've uh been concerned about potentially happening I would argue uh for a long time and"},{"time":"12:31","seconds":751,"text":"there's been extreme efforts to sort of yoke together uh the infrastructure of the military and also the national Curr"},{"time":"12:38","seconds":758,"text":"Security State of the US uh to you know infrastructure service providers or software developers uh that are from you"},{"time":"12:45","seconds":765,"text":"know Israeli intelligence and some of these um are quite disconcerting so um in 2019 one of these companies that's a"},{"time":"12:54","seconds":774,"text":"contractor to the US military is a cyber security firm called cyber reason um and cyber reason did all of these uh very"},{"time":"13:01","seconds":781,"text":"weird simulations with us law enforcement about a hack disrupting a US presidential election and what would be"},{"time":"13:08","seconds":788,"text":"needed to have uh the election cancelled and martial law declared in the country and uh this particular company uh was"},{"time":"13:16","seconds":796,"text":"created by Israeli intelligence veterans uh who one of whom the head of it um overtly says that his work at Cyber reason is the continuation of his work"},{"time":"13:24","seconds":804,"text":"at um Israel's unit 8200 which is essentially like the Israeli NSA equivalent signals intelligence um and they contract for"},{"time":"13:33","seconds":813,"text":"major aspects of uh US military infrastructure now um so you know when you are a cyber security company you"},{"time":"13:41","seconds":821,"text":"also get a lot of access uh to the most essential systems that you're ostensibly trying to protect but this is you know a foreign intelligence and foreign"},{"time":"13:49","seconds":829,"text":"military um you know using its veterans and sort of embedding them in major aspects of us uh you know National"},{"time":"13:57","seconds":837,"text":"Security infrastructure which is a huge US National Security risk but it never gets talked about and you know again I would go back to the argument that the"},{"time":"14:05","seconds":845,"text":"intention for decades has been to build a bational security state to prevent the US separating itself from Israel in any meaningful way um and I think that's"},{"time":"14:14","seconds":854,"text":"also true of some other uh countries as well uh like the UK for example and I think that's why you had Netanyahu a few"},{"time":"14:22","seconds":862,"text":"years ago uh in referring to the five eyes intelligence Alliance which is really most of the English speaking world uh saying that isra is really the"},{"time":"14:30","seconds":870,"text":"second eye of the five eyes uh in that it you know essentially dominates a lot of this infrastructure cyber security infrastructure uh for these countries as"},{"time":"14:38","seconds":878,"text":"well and uh Netanyahu in 2012 oversaw the um well under his administration back then oversaw the development of"},{"time":"14:46","seconds":886,"text":"this uh in cyber security I guess you could say intelligence policy um where a lot of operations that used to be done"},{"time":"14:53","seconds":893,"text":"inhouse in mad and other Israeli intelligence agencies were going to be spun off into private cyber security"},{"time":"15:00","seconds":900,"text":"companies um and uh so essentially admitting that the policy uh was to use cyber Israeli um the Israeli cyber"},{"time":"15:09","seconds":909,"text":"security uh tech industry uh and also other aspects of the tech industry as fronts for Israeli intelligence it's like an admitted policy uh they've had"},{"time":"15:17","seconds":917,"text":"since 2012 um and you know I think it's it's very unlikely that because of how extensive um the infra the the"},{"time":"15:26","seconds":926,"text":"connection uh of us critical infrastructure is to Israel or companies tied to Israel it would be very hard for"},{"time":"15:35","seconds":935,"text":"any meaningful separation to take place and I don't just mean that in terms of military um you may remember you know a"},{"time":"15:42","seconds":942,"text":"year or two ago maybe it was a little more recent there was some sort of hack on some water system um I forget what state it was but they were there was a"},{"time":"15:49","seconds":949,"text":"lot of fear-mongering about that about hackers and that particular um you know water system or Dam or whatever it was was controlled by an Israeli company or"},{"time":"15:58","seconds":958,"text":"managed by is an Israeli company and you know this would I I guess you could some people argue that this is fine because"},{"time":"16:05","seconds":965,"text":"Israel is you know supposedly the US's greatest Ally uh but that's not necessarily true um there's a you know"},{"time":"16:13","seconds":973,"text":"it Netanyahu for example pushing for the invasion of Iraq for example that was not really in the US Us's uh best"},{"time":"16:20","seconds":980,"text":"interest in terms of a national security perspective uh along with the war on terror uh and really you know the neocons and the US were pushing it"},{"time":"16:28","seconds":988,"text":"through but but neoconservative uh conservativism uh basically seeks to align uh us and Israeli foreign policy"},{"time":"16:36","seconds":996,"text":"goals uh basically conflating Israeli policy goals um with us policy goals um so you know that obviously uh"},{"time":"16:44","seconds":1004,"text":"complicates things uh you know even even more and so there's this a very extensive relationship that a lot of people I think don't really understand"},{"time":"16:53","seconds":1013,"text":"and it it was intentionally set up this way I think to prevent the voice of the people um from being heard I totally hear where you're coming from"},{"time":"17:01","seconds":1021,"text":"and thank you so much for for saying that because I don't think I'm seeing a lot of people believe the rhetoric uh that uh KLA Harris is saying and I I"},{"time":"17:10","seconds":1030,"text":"don't think people really understand just how deep this goes and that that brings me to Peter theal and JD Vance"},{"time":"17:18","seconds":1038,"text":"because when it was announced by Donald Trump that he was choosing JD Vance uh a lot of people even some conservatives"},{"time":"17:25","seconds":1045,"text":"were not happy about that pick it made sense that kamla Harris chose uh Tim Waltz if she's trying to win over some some of the progressive base so that"},{"time":"17:33","seconds":1053,"text":"made sense but the JD Vance pick was kind of odd he seems like he's kind of a wild card he says some things that are just really weird uh like saying that"},{"time":"17:41","seconds":1061,"text":"people should be punished for not having children for example uh but I'm curious to hear from you uh there have been reports that JD Vance has some type of"},{"time":"17:50","seconds":1070,"text":"connection uh between um with himself and Peter Theo and that also that may have something to do with why Donald"},{"time":"17:58","seconds":1078,"text":"Trump made that pick and I want people to hear about this too because I'm hearing people say well Donald Trump is going to be you know anti-war and that"},{"time":"18:05","seconds":1085,"text":"he didn't start any yeah he didn't start any wars but he implemented coups in Venezuela Etc and people want to forget all those things I just want people to realize how far the corruption goes on"},{"time":"18:14","seconds":1094,"text":"both sides uh what is that connection there between JD Vance and Peter Theo yeah so I mean JD Vance as we know him today would that really exist 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and the Patriot Act was not um and essentially what Peter teal did uh was turn paler"},{"time":"22:51","seconds":1371,"text":"into a completely privatized version of total information awareness because they correctly G ambled that people had"},{"time":"23:00","seconds":1380,"text":"complained about the military having this program because it was housed in DARPA which is part of the Pentagon uh but if it was just a private sector"},{"time":"23:07","seconds":1387,"text":"Venture people wouldn't complain as much and they were completely accurate about that and so Peter teal not only"},{"time":"23:15","seconds":1395,"text":"privatized that failed DARPA program as paler he also privatized another uh DARPA program that was shut down but"},{"time":"23:22","seconds":1402,"text":"part of the same circle of surveillance um you know uh projects and and and proposed projects um and turned that"},{"time":"23:29","seconds":1409,"text":"into what is now Facebook so Facebook existed you know before 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fund paler besides teal who gave some"},{"time":"26:42","seconds":1602,"text":"of his own money to it uh was the cia's Venture Capital firm incel and for for the first like five or six years as a"},{"time":"26:49","seconds":1609,"text":"company their only client was the CIA paler CEO Alex karp says the CIA was always the intended client of palente"},{"time":"26:56","seconds":1616,"text":"here and I think in just a three-year period early on in a company the top engineers at paler visited CIA"},{"time":"27:03","seconds":1623,"text":"headquarters in Virginia uh over 200 times uh tweaking their having you know the CIA tweaking to help them develop"},{"time":"27:10","seconds":1630,"text":"their product um so uh that's a very very extensive relationship with the CIA and to claim that you know someone like"},{"time":"27:18","seconds":1638,"text":"Peter teal is a Libertarian that would you know presumably Libertarians are about like limiting big government in the E excesses of big government and"},{"time":"27:27","seconds":1647,"text":"this is a guy that gave lit the most out of control surveillance tool to the most outof control intelligence agency in the United States"},{"time":"27:35","seconds":1655,"text":"and arguably the world so um you know this is not a guy that I think is uh good at all uh the fact that his you"},{"time":"27:43","seconds":1663,"text":"know a guy that he uh essentially created is Trump's vice presidential candidate I think should be really"},{"time":"27:51","seconds":1671,"text":"concerning um for those reasons alone uh but also you know uh teal back when Trump was in office the first time was"},{"time":"27:59","seconds":1679,"text":"also a big part of Trump's transition team picked major aspects or helped make major appointments on who was uh brought"},{"time":"28:06","seconds":1686,"text":"in at the Trump Pentagon for example um and with JD Vance as the VP you know arguably his influence will be even"},{"time":"28:14","seconds":1694,"text":"greater than it was uh last time around without teal even having to be uh openly donating to the Trump campaign and and"},{"time":"28:21","seconds":1701,"text":"teal isn't as far as we know but a lot of people deeply connected to Peter teal are uh like Palmer lucky who runs uh"},{"time":"28:28","seconds":1708,"text":"andil which is teal funded and Palmer lucky is a teal fellow um and andil develops all these autonomous drones for"},{"time":"28:35","seconds":1715,"text":"Ukraine uh and I believe that they've partnered with Israel and the IDF and they also of course develop it for um you know the US Military and they're"},{"time":"28:43","seconds":1723,"text":"building the virtual border wall uh with facial recognition technology on the US Mexico border uh which is what Trump has promoted as the new uh instead of a"},{"time":"28:51","seconds":1731,"text":"physical wall on the US Mexico border that he campaigned on previously now he is all about the smart wall which Paul"},{"time":"28:58","seconds":1738,"text":"mer lucky happens to be building so we can assume that those contracts will increase under a future Trump Administration uh but unfortunately it's also something very supported by"},{"time":"29:07","seconds":1747,"text":"democrats as well uh actually when Trump came out and said oh I'm going to build a physical barrier barrier on the US Mexico border and Democrats complained"},{"time":"29:15","seconds":1755,"text":"about that their response their the policy they gave in response was build a smart wall which is now what Trump is doing so you know this is something that"},{"time":"29:23","seconds":1763,"text":"will advance regardless of who's in office um unfortunately and so a lot of these um you know same Silicon Valley"},{"time":"29:31","seconds":1771,"text":"guys again whether it's Peter teal or Elon Musk or the PayPal Mafia guys I guess because David Sachs is also um 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concerning Whitney and I I just want people to understand these parties are very similar and and I feel"},{"time":"31:15","seconds":1875,"text":"like there's the separation on like the social issues whether it's like for women's rights or you know that type of thing but when it comes down to the"},{"time":"31:23","seconds":1883,"text":"billionaire class they both support the oligarchy they both support uh the police Poli State these are types of things I've been trying to get people to understand and essentially everything"},{"time":"31:32","seconds":1892,"text":"that you just told me about Peter teal and JD Vance what that says is that as much as Trump says he's going to go after the Deep State again people have"},{"time":"31:39","seconds":1899,"text":"to realize that is just rhetoric because he essentially has put the Deep State as a part of his cabinet yeah and you know the Republicans traditionally frame"},{"time":"31:47","seconds":1907,"text":"themselves as the tough on crime 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very"},{"time":"37:04","seconds":2224,"text":"disturbing when you think about it um and uh I mean if if a pentagon contractor runs a major social media"},{"time":"37:13","seconds":2233,"text":"site that has a bot problem do you think he will prevent the pentagon's Bots or the pentagon's social media manipulation"},{"time":"37:20","seconds":2240,"text":"uh techniques from operating on his site it seems very unlikely because of the conflict of interest so I would encourage people to keep uh that stuff"},{"time":"37:29","seconds":2249,"text":"in mind and if you have Twitter and use it if you haven't already uh you should go in the settings and disable the part"},{"time":"37:36","seconds":2256,"text":"uh the little switch uh because every account by default uh surrenders its user data to Elon Musk uh grock Ai and"},{"time":"37:45","seconds":2265,"text":"uh so every tweet every DM everything you do on Twitter is being used to train his AI algorithm so I don't really think it's"},{"time":"37:53","seconds":2273,"text":"about free speech for Elon personally that's right that's right and and this brings me to kamla Harris"},{"time":"38:00","seconds":2280,"text":"hiring two former Black Rock Executives so recently for those who were not aware KLA Harris hired two former Black Rock"},{"time":"38:08","seconds":2288,"text":"Executives to actually advise her economic uh platform uh they had already worked with the Biden with Biden as well"},{"time":"38:17","seconds":2297,"text":"so it's not like these are people that she she didn't know and wasn't aware of uh but to the people who are saying that KLA Harris is Progressive and she's this"},{"time":"38:26","seconds":2306,"text":"a communist or which obviously people don't know what communism actually means uh these exaggerations are ridiculous uh"},{"time":"38:33","seconds":2313,"text":"but this just goes to show you again at the end of the day you have to pay attention to what they do not what they say because 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black rock is uh trailblazing this whole"},{"time":"44:38","seconds":2678,"text":"idea of tokenizing real world assets so basically they're trying to make new forms of digital gold uh kind of like um"},{"time":"44:46","seconds":2686,"text":"I guess like bitcoin's been called that for example but they're trying to basically tokenize major aspects of the natural world uh which they say are like"},{"time":"44:54","seconds":2694,"text":"you know this rainforest this National Park is of a finite Supply it's of a finite size so we can tokenize each"},{"time":"45:04","seconds":2704,"text":"hectare or each acre of that and Link it to like a token or something and trade it on uh the blockchain and make all of"},{"time":"45:11","seconds":2711,"text":"this money um I mean that's basically you know they're about to turn nature into a giant Wall Street casino and it's"},{"time":"45:19","seconds":2719,"text":"going to be supported by Kamala or Trump because they framed it as um you know sustainable 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gets what it wants and this particular faction of the Democrats the Obama Biden Camala crowd and the clintons of course are very very"},{"time":"47:42","seconds":2862,"text":"very cozy with Wall Street and have been historically um and the same is true uh for Trump who was actually bailed out in"},{"time":"47:49","seconds":2869,"text":"the 1990s by Wall Street and uh I believe it was actually a rosch child Inc specifically and the person the the banker there that helped to bail him out"},{"time":"47:57","seconds":2877,"text":"Wilbur Ross Trump later made his Commerce Secretary and when he was being bailed out the head of of that particular Bank uh said that you know we"},{"time":"48:05","seconds":2885,"text":"could have let Trump fail like it wasn't really in our interest to bail him out uh but the Trump name is still an asset so that's why we bailed him out like"},{"time":"48:13","seconds":2893,"text":"he's still useful uh because of the Trump name so you know I would argue that 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all of that and a lot of those same excuses are being rolled out uh you for Trump right now uh but you know you can't you can't"},{"time":"49:09","seconds":2949,"text":"say that Trump is so amazing that he's going to destroy the Deep State single-handedly and then say that he uh did all this bad stuff last time around"},{"time":"49:16","seconds":2956,"text":"because he couldn't control or reign in any of his executive appointees or cabinet uh officials uh you can't have it both ways"},{"time":"49:25","seconds":2965,"text":"unfortunately that's right in and that brings me to Jeffrey Epstein and mad probably one of the"},{"time":"49:31","seconds":2971,"text":"most large cases that I have seen in the US uh or large cases of Injustice was"},{"time":"49:39","seconds":2979,"text":"the Epstein uh trial uh especially when I did more research and I found that this was not the first time that they"},{"time":"49:46","seconds":2986,"text":"had uh I guess in uh went to one of his homes I believe they went to his home in in Palm Beach before prior years prior"},{"time":"49:55","seconds":2995,"text":"there were people that chose to with Epstein even after knowing about the Palm Beach raid including people like"},{"time":"50:02","seconds":3002,"text":"chumsky for example and this man was allowed to go on and continue doing what he was doing on this island in the"},{"time":"50:10","seconds":3010,"text":"Virgin Islands the banks were all in on it you have JP Morgan that was in on this as well and it's just it's it's"},{"time":"50:17","seconds":3017,"text":"crazy to me it's shocking now galain Maxwell went down but to me I felt like she was just the Fall Guy because at the"},{"time":"50:23","seconds":3023,"text":"end of the day absolutely Epstein whatever killed himself whatever in in prison whatever you want to call it but"},{"time":"50:31","seconds":3031,"text":"Epstein is gone galain Maxwell seems to be the Fall Guy and also we still have not seen the list of names the 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biggest banks and all of this stuff um"},{"time":"52:59","seconds":3179,"text":"and anyway there's a lot to say there but basically one of the people that shorted that peso and made a bunch of money was part of the same group that Goldsmith was a part of a guy named Joe"},{"time":"53:07","seconds":3187,"text":"Lewis who was also incidentally part of the FTX Scandal uh more recently so um Jeffrey Epstein was very uh when he was"},{"time":"53:15","seconds":3195,"text":"interviewed uh by by prominent journalists for the New York Times and others was frequently seen uh trading currencies and involved in Forex markets"},{"time":"53:23","seconds":3203,"text":"he was very involved in uh bar Stern's efforts to digit ize uh Forex Trading and all of that um and uh back in the"},{"time":"53:31","seconds":3211,"text":"80s after he was sort of forced out of bar Sterns he developed some sort of financial relationship with us intelligence and according to him he was"},{"time":"53:40","seconds":3220,"text":"helping hide or helping find stolen money for powerful people uh mostly billionaires so if you're hiding and"},{"time":"53:48","seconds":3228,"text":"also finding stolen money for people not only are you a financial criminal but you have a very intimate understanding of the Shadow banking system of money"},{"time":"53:57","seconds":3237,"text":"laundering um and and things like that and so and also he was involved it appears with a significant amount of tax"},{"time":"54:04","seconds":3244,"text":"evasion and how to structure nonprofits uh as a way to sort of um you know you not really have them be framed as"},{"time":"54:11","seconds":3251,"text":"philanthropic organizations but really they're like covert companies which is why he was so involved in helping set up the Gates Foundation and helping set up"},{"time":"54:19","seconds":3259,"text":"the Clinton foundation and the Clinton Global initiative and all of this stuff so I think a lot of efforts have been made uh to have the focus on Epstein"},{"time":"54:27","seconds":3267,"text":"just be on the sex crimes and not on all the other stuff he was doing uh because if they were to focus on sort of the bigger picture it would be very"},{"time":"54:35","seconds":3275,"text":"problematic for very very powerful people on both sides of the political divide and I think but I do think it's absolutely true that there were efforts"},{"time":"54:43","seconds":3283,"text":"to use um you know sexual blackmail to to manipulate powerful people or to buy them out or to secure um their uh"},{"time":"54:51","seconds":3291,"text":"compliance with certain things because if you um have compromised someone you you can control and influence them in unprecedented ways and so something I"},{"time":"55:00","seconds":3300,"text":"pointed out in my book is that you know sexual blackmail has been used uh by this network that in which Epstein was part um you know for decades and it 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particular world and this particular Network in which EP swam"},{"time":"55:54","seconds":3354,"text":"this type of behavior was actually not that uncommon uh so for example one of ep's clients in the 1980s was a very intelligence connected arms dealer named"},{"time":"56:03","seconds":3363,"text":"Anan kogi and AD Nan kogi had a yacht and he would sexually compromise and blackmail people there right and uh one"},{"time":"56:11","seconds":3371,"text":"another guy named Roy con uh who was very much tied up with um the same not necessarily with Epstein directly but"},{"time":"56:18","seconds":3378,"text":"the same sort of like New York city-based power networks that later uh Epstein became part of uh Roy was also"},{"time":"56:26","seconds":3386,"text":"very involved in sexual blackmail uh with organized crime and was pretty much overtly like a lawyer for major figures in organized crime while also having a"},{"time":"56:35","seconds":3395,"text":"major foot in the Reagan Administration um for example and Roy Kon was also the mentor to Donald Trump and the place"},{"time":"56:43","seconds":3403,"text":"where uh Roy con was very involved and uh well that he he and his associates in that uh used to Blackmail people was"},{"time":"56:51","seconds":3411,"text":"later sold to Donald Trump who had like questionable parties uh at the Plaza Hotel in New York in the early 90s allegedly involving underage girls um"},{"time":"57:01","seconds":3421,"text":"again none of this has really been that investigated but there is a lot of commonalities uh and there's a lot of other sex black male scandals as well"},{"time":"57:09","seconds":3429,"text":"like the profumo affair that was sort of like a UK uh us sex blackmail Scandal there's just been a lot of these"},{"time":"57:16","seconds":3436,"text":"throughout um you know throughout history but I guess it's just not something you're taught in school so you know for this particular Network again"},{"time":"57:24","seconds":3444,"text":"uh that Epstein was inhabiting the oligarchs he was you know serving or fronting for uh this is this kind of stuff actually happened perhaps more"},{"time":"57:32","seconds":3452,"text":"often than not so again I think the media coverage attempting to frame Epstein as a as an anomaly um is very mistaken in this regard and it actually"},{"time":"57:40","seconds":3460,"text":"goes on a lot more extensively than we've been led to believe um and I certainly think that a lot of the um uh"},{"time":"57:48","seconds":3468,"text":"the people he was attempting to benefit as it related to Blackmail uh definitely there's definite Israeli connections there um but again I would argue that"},{"time":"57:56","seconds":3476,"text":"the network and I argue in the book that the network that epin was really working for is sort of this CIA Massad blob uh"},{"time":"58:04","seconds":3484,"text":"that grew out of sort of these parts of the CIA that were very 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another major investor in that was Peter Teal's Founders fund what do you know so uh you know these networks"},{"time":"1:00:23","seconds":3623,"text":"uh it's very important to follow the money and I think in the case of abstein it's very important to follow the money as well um and you"},{"time":"1:00:31","seconds":3631,"text":"know if people want to sort of get the deeper picture of it um I would recommend my book One Nation Under blackmail it's two volumes so the second"},{"time":"1:00:38","seconds":3638,"text":"volume deals specifically with Epstein in his life but in order to sort of set the stage for the network that he was"},{"time":"1:00:45","seconds":3645,"text":"working for I tell that Network story in volume one uh going back to the' 40s and sort of this Union between organized"},{"time":"1:00:53","seconds":3653,"text":"crime and US intelligence during World War II and how it deepened after that the history of sex blackmail in the US and a lot of these figures Iran 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what I was goingon"},{"time":"1:01:48","seconds":3708,"text":"to say sorry no worries it it happens yeah one thing I was gonna mention is that um and just to kind of sum this all"},{"time":"1:01:57","seconds":3717,"text":"up I've been telling my audience that obviously the the two- party system which is again one uni party is not going to solve these issues and I think"},{"time":"1:02:04","seconds":3724,"text":"a lot of people fall for this every election cycle thinking that the person that they pick this time uh will be the one to do that I've been advocating for"},{"time":"1:02:13","seconds":3733,"text":"people to organize locally within their communities do Mutual Aid these are the types of things that I do well and building dual power and I I feel like a"},{"time":"1:02:22","seconds":3742,"text":"lot of people just they still are somewhat uh I don't want to say brainwashed but but just hopeful that"},{"time":"1:02:31","seconds":3751,"text":"the next politician this time around will be the one to save the day and even when it comes to third parties while I'll be supporting Jill Stein I still"},{"time":"1:02:39","seconds":3759,"text":"tell people Jill Stein is not going to be your superhero like you still have to do the work on the ground you have to"},{"time":"1:02:46","seconds":3766,"text":"organize how do you feel about that and when we talk about like where a lot of the money comes from and the billionaire class and the control that these"},{"time":"1:02:54","seconds":3774,"text":"corporations have on these politicians yeah so I absolutely agree with you that the solutions that we need to look for are local if people want to"},{"time":"1:03:03","seconds":3783,"text":"look uh want to vote for somebody that's your choice and I'm not telling you what to do on Election Day but unfortunately Americans and a lot of other people in"},{"time":"1:03:10","seconds":3790,"text":"the world have sort of this nasty habit of thinking that all they need to do in terms of 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steal your money to transfer it to"},{"time":"1:03:58","seconds":3838,"text":"the oligarch class which is what they've historically done every crisis we've ever had ever uh really so um as far as"},{"time":"1:04:07","seconds":3847,"text":"the Silicon Valley oligarchs though uh go a lot of us are very dependent on their products and if we don't want them uh to push us into this dystopian"},{"time":"1:04:15","seconds":3855,"text":"hellhole that they are building uh that includes the ones that donate to Democrats and donate to Republicans then we should try and divest from their"},{"time":"1:04:24","seconds":3864,"text":"services as much as possible and look for Alternatives or at least not be so dependent on their products um because if we're dependent they can just do"},{"time":"1:04:32","seconds":3872,"text":"anything uh they want to us really um and I I think there's going to be a lot of major efforts to sort of uh grab for"},{"time":"1:04:40","seconds":3880,"text":"control and 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world"},{"time":"1:06:56","seconds":4016,"text":"a little bit um and and trying to you know build build community with like-minded people uh that also want"},{"time":"1:07:03","seconds":4023,"text":"solutions to some of these problems and and if you have red lines like you don't want to uh opt in digital ID you don't want to opt in programmable Sur avilable"},{"time":"1:07:12","seconds":4032,"text":"money what are you going to do about it how are you going to opt out you probably will need other people uh to help back you up in those effort so it's"},{"time":"1:07:20","seconds":4040,"text":"really important uh to focus on the policy agendas that you're specifically either th oppose to or support and try"},{"time":"1:07:28","seconds":4048,"text":"and actualize as much as you can at the personal level you know how you're going to help advance that in your life or"},{"time":"1:07:35","seconds":4055,"text":"elsewhere so maybe like I said earlier the US government can't meaningly meaningfully uh boycott devest and sanction Israel but certainly us as"},{"time":"1:07:44","seconds":4064,"text":"consumers can divest and boycott Israel and you know a lot of that can be done whether it's for Israel whether it's for"},{"time":"1:07:51","seconds":4071,"text":"Silicon Valley you know we have power they spend a lot effort convincing us we don't and that the only way things can change is that we either get a"},{"time":"1:08:00","seconds":4080,"text":"billionaire or a billionaire puppet in the white house or we start worshiping a tech billionaire as the savior of free speech in the United States and that's"},{"time":"1:08:08","seconds":4088,"text":"really not um where change is going to come from especially when you consider that uh it's been a war uh between the"},{"time":"1:08:15","seconds":4095,"text":"billionaires and us uh for a very long time and that war is kicking up into high speed and those billionaires are teamed up with intelligence agencies and"},{"time":"1:08:23","seconds":4103,"text":"other groups that have unprecedented abilities to manipulate us psychologically and emotionally and a lot of the ways they're manipulating us"},{"time":"1:08:31","seconds":4111,"text":"that way is on social media and on the online world so the more we can sort of get a level uh you know uh sort of keep"},{"time":"1:08:39","seconds":4119,"text":"a level head in all of that I think a lot of it has to do with spending more time in the real world and not so much on their world because the tech world uh"},{"time":"1:08:48","seconds":4128,"text":"the online world as we know it today is dominated by these guys yep all right Whitney Webb thank you so much for your"},{"time":"1:08:56","seconds":4136,"text":"time yeah absolutely thanks again for having me on"},{"time":"1:09:00","seconds":4140,"text":"[Music]"}]}